Patiently_Devoted Reaction to why boys do the things they do

Patiently_Devoted: I feel that using insecurites is a cop out and that there is much more to that when it comes to the males because I cant accept that it has to be more.
Kollekted_Thoughts: but see thats the thing you think its deeper than that, its really not. we only take what we can have, if you give us a mile were gonna take a mile
 Patiently_Devoted: yeah but then i'd have to believe all men are dogs which just isn't true
Kollekted_Thoughts: no

Patiently_Devoted: which just blames a females insecurity
 Kollekted_Thoughts: ok well if u say that
Patiently_Devoted: yeah because there's a reason why your so immature
Kollekted_Thoughts: then all dogs are not bad the ones u nurture and train, when theyre young would never hurt you and would die tryin to protect you . So its like how are you gonna train these dogs?
 Patiently_Devoted: like I'm sure you were raised by a woman I'm sure you have women you love and respect, just because a woman isn't giving herself respect you have to exploit that?
Kollekted_Thoughts: but what if he is lacking respect too
 Patiently_Devoted: exactly
 Kollekted_Thoughts: and she is a confidence boost to him
Patiently_Devoted: exactly. that's not immaturity
Kollekted_Thoughts:: it is tho
 Patiently_Devoted: that's the problem with black relationships
 Patiently_Devoted:: no it's more than immaturity. unless we have our definitions mixed up. insecurity is different than immaturity
 Kollekted_Thoughts: because if he was mature enough to not need a confidence boost he would prey on the weak minded
 Patiently_Devoted: just like he may not realize or have his eyes open to what he's doing or okay he's doing it on purpose, immaturely, the underlying factor is he's insecure
Kollekted_Thoughts: and go for someone more on his level intellectually
Patiently_Devoted: i think you're a mature person, and i think i'm a mature person, but i know i get insecure. idk how u are, but i know i get really insecure. but i would never exploit a man
Kollekted_Thoughts: but why is that? thats all in ur mind
Patiently_Devoted: wherever it comes from.. idk it's there. but i dont think i'm immature
Kollekted_Thoughts: but see that falls into place of being weak minded
Patiently_Devoted: maybe my recognition of it makes me mature, but at the same its still insecurity ; yeah but honestly some women
 Kollekted_Thoughts: people who are insecure are very weak minded
Patiently_Devoted: like especially black women have reason to be weak minded
Kollekted_Thoughts: why is that?
Patiently_Devoted: because there are SO MUCH pressure on us. like especially when it comes to men.
Patiently_Devoted: like if you don't have a body like a video vixen to attract the opposite sex sometimes you have to compensate in other way.. and that in itself can create a lot of low self-esteem ladies. with black men especially talking about how desirable it is to have a white woman or a latina women there's competition out there, unlike a compeition in males. like you don't see asian men goo-goo gaa-gaa over black females.. but u do see black males goo-goo gaa-gaa over asian females... they are more likely to see them desirable. but this weak-mindedness isn't just superficial. i mean i can speak on my mom; beautiful, strong, attractive, smart, but i know she's insecure... i've had conversations with her. she's one of the reasons i've become so independent. she's been dogged by a lot of men.. some her own family members. not saying my moms a skeeze, but i'm saying there's more to weak-mindedness then just the superficial hook-ups. i think that's just the easy way to portray it; it's the clearest image. women want attention... and if they can't be respected that's not gonna make their desires disappear. it's a sad cycle but i just wish the immaturity of a man and how women just need to be mature enough to see through it
Patiently_Devoted: if we can't depend on yall who can we depend on?
Kollekted_Thoughts: but see in that moment right there you just shifted all that pressure of a blk woman onto the back of a black man... We will save this for another day